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The $10,000 Saints bounty

Posted on: March 2, 2012 5:33 pm
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By now you've heard about the Saints and Bountygate. Specific examples are leaking from the many pieces of evidence gathered by the NFL. Here is one from an NFL source:

At times, the NFL says, players both pledged significant amounts of money for bounties and targeted specific players. Prior to a Saints game in January of 2010 Jonathan Vilma, a team captain, offered $10,000 in cash to any player who knocked quarterback Brett Favre out of the game.

Favre was blasted in that game.

More of these will leak in the coming days in what is turning out to be a scandal bigger than Spygate.
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Category: NFL
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balrog01
Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: March 8, 2012 3:42 pm
 

The $10,000 Saints bounty

Did Vilma pay the $10,000???  Farve did get knocked out... so if he didn't pay...
Favre did not get knocked out....he was neve knocked out, was never carted off the field and finished the game so the "bounty", I guess, was not earned.  In the end, however, whether or not Vilma ever paid anyone on his "bounty", does not change the fact that rest of the bounty systerm run by the Saints, which they have admitted, was in violation of league rules and was unethical at best, criminal at worst.


balrog01
Since: May 17, 2008
Posted on: March 8, 2012 3:30 pm
 

The $10,000 Saints bounty

YourMomLikesIt, If my son made Millions, on top of Millions, on top of Millions to play a game he loves, I would absolutely be okay with it. Your post holds no weight. There is not one article, report, or statement saying there were being paid to hit opponente in the head, or knee. They were presented with incentives to play agressive and knock someone out. The same way Pee Wee football coaches put stickers on your helmet for big hits.. $1,000-$1,500, or even the so-called $10K by Vilma, is mere pennies to most of the starters in the league

Okay, so it's okay to attempt to injure some who makes "millions on top of millions"?  What if he only makes "millions"?  Still okay?  What if he only makes a few hundred thousand, say NFL minimum salary?  Still okay?  What exactly is the income level at which you think it becomes okay to try to physically injure another player for money--especially for "mere pennies" (personally, I could understand an NFL minimum wager/backup type guy being tempted if you offered him a substantial amount of money but to do it for "mere pennies" is pathetic)?  Sorry Whodat, but its either okay or its not, it has nothing to do with how much money the defender or his victim makes.  The risk of injury in the NFL is bad enough, but the players take that risk voluntarily.  The do not voluntarily take a risk however that another team will pay its players an "incentive" (you seem to like that word better than "bounty" so fine) to try to knock you out or injure you so badly you have to be carted off the field.

Paying someone to knock out (i.e hit in the head) or injure an opponent bad enough that he needs to be carted off (which usually means serious injury like neck/head injures, torn ligaments or broken bones) is WAY DIFFERENT than giving a sticker for a "big hit" (you get the sticker whether or not the other player is injured, the hits are presumably legal --unlike a head shot in the NFL) or other big plays like INTs, sacks, fumble recoveries, etc. 


puertoenrico
Since: Nov 28, 2006
Posted on: March 7, 2012 9:54 am
 

The $10,000 Saints bounty

The Saints knew of the program and did nothing to stop it. They should be forced to give the Vikings their 1st round pick, give the Cardinals their 2nd round pick and the Colts their 3rd round pick in this years draft. They should also be forced to trade Brees to the Vikings for Ponder.

This is seething with ignorance.  First of all, the Saints do NOT have a first round pick this year, so good luck enjoying that one Mr. Viking's fan.

Next, I would like to know how you are coming up with this punishment?  Brett Favre was able to play the very next year.  Would not Kurt Warner and the Cardinals have a better case for bigger restitution then the Vikings? Also, how are the Saints in any way responsible for what happened to Peyton Manning?  The hit claimed to hurt Peyton Manning was done by the Washington Redskins, not the Saints. 

You are missing a big point though.  The NFL does not ever give out punishment to restore another team.  Picks are traded, but not forced to be given to another team.  Some draft picks are given out as consolation for losing free agents, but this is not from taking away a draft pick from another team. 

Your last statement about forcing Brees to be traded for Ponder is just too funny.  The NFL does not have any kind of power to FORCE a trade of any player.  I am glad other Viking fans and NFL fans are not as ignorant as you.  Giving this kind of power to Goodell would be detrimental to the function of the NFL, but no one is so foolish as to give Goodell that kind of power (no owner would put up with it, or player for that matter). 


D.WhoDatNation
Since: Nov 2, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 10:13 pm
 

The $10,000 Saints bounty

its no wonder a team from new orleans would do this. no wonder katrina hit that wack city
You classless worm. Katrina hit 4yrs prior to G. Williams even joining the club. Only a scumbag would mention one of the greatest natural disasters in our nations history that took tthe lives of many when discussing football. You are a bigger disgrace than anyone involved in this matter. I do wish I could be standing next to you and hear you make such a gutless, poorly thought out, statement. You personally suck at life.. You PUNK!!


SAN DIEGO 1
Since: May 5, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 9:30 pm
 

The $10,000 Saints bounty

PUT THE BAGS OVER THEIR HEADS IN SHAME:(


thachamps24
Since: Jan 26, 2009
Posted on: March 5, 2012 9:19 pm
 

The $10,000 Saints bounty

its no wonder a team from new orleans would do this. no wonder katrina hit that wack city


D.WhoDatNation
Since: Nov 2, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 8:31 pm
 

The $10,000 Saints bounty

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EVERYONE PLEASE READ THIS ARTICLE,AND THE POSTS, PRIOR TO POSTING SOMETHING YOURSELF... 


D.WhoDatNation
Since: Nov 2, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 8:12 pm
 

The $10,000 Saints bounty

So if a captain offers a kid 100.00 on his team to hit your kid in the head or knee in a pop Warner game you would be ok with it if your kid was knocked out of the game as long as the captain didn't pay. Get a life loser..
YourMomLikesIt, If my son made Millions, on top of Millions, on top of Millions to play a game he loves, I would absolutely be okay with it. Your post holds no weight. There is not one article, report, or statement saying there were being paid to hit opponente in the head, or knee. They were presented with incentives to play agressive and knock someone out. The same way Pee Wee football coaches put stickers on your helmet for big hits.. $1,000-$1,500, or even the so-called $10K by Vilma, is mere pennies to most of the starters in the league


D.WhoDatNation
Since: Nov 2, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 8:04 pm
 

The $10,000 Saints bounty

CRSTALCLEAR, it is crystal clear you havent watched any of the games you reference in your post.


1.) The hit on Kurt was a BLOCK after an INT. Warner threw a pick, made a play on the defender, and got lit up.


2.) There are only 2 plays taht could possibly be questioned in the '09 NFC Championship game. To have a gameplan to rough up the QB is no secret in the NFL. To only have 2 plays, in a game of that caliber, at question makes your post even more absurd. 


3.) To honestly believe the ViQueens were cheated bc the Sainst won the coin toss, hahah... These were the rules, this was not a surprise to anyone that follows the NFL. First Posession in overtime is decided by a coin toss. Sudden Death meant the first team to score wins.. No one was cheated,,


4.) If the Saints have commited so many cheap shots, where were all the flags, penalties, and fines. You do know that any play in question is reviewed by the league? So, why werent the involved players fined if "the Saints have always been known for late hits"?

Anyone ???


YourGirlLikesIt
Since: May 6, 2011
Posted on: March 5, 2012 4:34 pm
 

The $10,000 Saints bounty

So if a captain offers a kid 100.00 on his team to hit your kid in the head or knee in a pop Warner game you would be ok with it if your kid was knocked out of the game as long as the captain didn't pay. Get a life loser....    




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