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Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

Posted on: February 4, 2012 6:32 pm
Edited on: February 4, 2012 10:25 pm
I'm not going to be one of those whining, smirking people who complains about the Hall of Fame voting process. I know some of those men in the room. Many are skilled, brilliant and extremely smart about the game. A handful are arrogant jerks with hardcore agendas but the vast majority know what they are doing.

So I'm not going to complain as much as simply be stunned over the omission of Bill Parcells. I'm not a Parcells fan. He treated many people in my business terribly and wasn't exactly a great human being. But to me, in history, there are few better coaches.

The two greatest motivators in NFL history, the coaches who got players to do things and go places in their careers they thought they never could, were Don Shula and Parcells. The best pure motivators ever. Period. That is a coach's primary job. Nothing happens before that -- not the Xs and Os, nothing -- before getting a player mentally ready. Shula was the best at that (what he did in Miami with the then expansion Dolphins is borderline miraculous) and Parcells was second.

He turned around the Giants, the Patriots and Jets when those latter two organizations were absolutely awful.

My guess as to what hurt Parcells. First -- and no one will admit this but it's true -- the way he treated some writers played a factor. Writers have long memories and we can be just as petty anyone else. There likely were a few writers in the room who were either treated poorly by Parcells -- or know people who were -- and this was a form of payback.

I've also heard some writers over the years (including some in that room) say that Bill Belichick made Parcells and Parcells never made it back to a Super Bowl without Belichick.

But most importantly it is accurate that when Parcells left organizations he left them atomized. His departures were sometimes very ugly and it likely also did not help Parcells that he left the Dolphins in semi-ruins.

But overall his record -- he took the Giants, Jets, Patriots and Cowboys to the playoffs while winning two of three Super Bowl appearances -- was more than enough to overcome his faults.

No, not a complaint here. Just sort of stunned.

Since: Jul 21, 2008
Posted on: February 13, 2012 4:08 pm

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

The press needs to get off the Parcells bandwagon. Parcells was a good coach but I do not think he is a Hall of Famer and he definitely showed during his time in Miami that it may be a good thing "he did not shop for the groceries." Parcells won about 71% of his games with Belichik has his DC and about 41% without him. At the bottom of this is the list of HoF Coaches. Remember, the HoF is for elite not just very good. Overall, Parcells won 56.9% of his games as a coach. I picked several coaches in the HoF that coached during same years as Parcells. Bud Grant 62% winning percentage. Tom Landry 60.3% winning percentage. Chuck Knoll 57.2% winning percentage but 4 SuperBowls in 6 years and 37 more wins than Parcells. Don Shula 67.6% wining percentage Bill Walsh 61.8% winning percentage.

Parcells, 19 seasons, 172 wins, that is an average of 9 wins a year. That is not HoF worthy.

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Since: Dec 22, 2011
Posted on: February 13, 2012 10:01 am

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

He should be in HOF! No doubt.

Since: Mar 1, 2008
Posted on: February 6, 2012 5:30 pm

Andre Reed

I'm wondering why Andre Reed hasn't been voted in. He was never a deep threat that caught pass after pass going over the middle where he could get creamed. His stats aren't too impressive when compared to today's receivers, but the game was run-first in the late 80's and early 90's.

Since: Jun 5, 2011
Posted on: February 6, 2012 3:12 pm

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

This is the sportswriters payback for Parcells being a tool to them all those years. Its unfair as his body of work is certainly HOF worthy. The HOF should be determined by a computer, forget letting these dumbasses vote on it. Especually with Irvin in and Chris Carter not? WTF is that?

I agree with montweet on this comment, with the exception of having a computer determine the HOF.  Computers could help in the stats a bit, but you can't rely totally on computers, tho Cyberdyne might argue.  I mean, how is Chris Carter not in the HOF, that's a joke & a black mark against Canton.

Since: Dec 3, 2010
Posted on: February 6, 2012 2:38 pm

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

I love the guys who say Parcells won nothing without Belicheck.

Question:  how many Super Bowls has Belicheck won without Romeo Crennel as his D coordinator?  Answer:  none.

Staff is an integral part of any championship team, but doesn't the coach who assembles that staff and recognizes the talents and schemes that each brings to the table deserve some credit for that, too?

Belicheck is a great coach.  Parcells is a great coach.  One or both may be despised personally, but don't allow that to dictate the voting process.

Since: Aug 19, 2011
Posted on: February 6, 2012 1:11 pm
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Since: Apr 25, 2008
Posted on: February 6, 2012 12:39 pm

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

and didn't parcells leave NE over a dispute with robert kraft in the draft war room...  something to do with wasting a 1st round pick on terry glenn when parcells wanted a stud Defensive player and kraft overruled him and took glenn. 

Since: Mar 16, 2008
Posted on: February 6, 2012 11:37 am

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

Bill Parcels, Chris Carter, and Tim Brown are being absolutely insulted by the HOF voting community. Carter and Brown are 2 of the top 5 WR ever to play the game. They both should have been first ballot HOF's and Brown has missed 4 times and Carter 5 times. While Michael Irvin gets in on his first try? I understand Irvin has 3 rings but he was not a better receiver then Tim Brown or Chris Carter. Bill Parcells was an amazing football coach with 2 Super Bowls and an incredible regular season record. He to should be in the HOF.

Cortez Kennedy over Brown, Carter, and Parcells. This is becoming borderline ridiculous. Don't give the argument they will eventually get in. Of course they will, but that isn't the point. They deserve to be in already. 

Since: Jun 10, 2011
Posted on: February 6, 2012 9:09 am

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

Regarding Shula - don't mean to "nit-pick" but the Dolphins had already played 4 full seasons (66, 67, 68 & 69) ... and then Shula came in from Baltimore to turn them into a great team - 
So it is not quite accurate to say "what he did in Miami with the then expansion is borderline miraculous" because they were a bit beyond "expansion"  (but not much -judging by the quality of their play)  
- frankly, what he did was borderline miraculous anyway  ...  

Since: Sep 5, 2008
Posted on: February 6, 2012 9:04 am

Parcells has HOF chops, his exclusion a mystery

It's the old "what comes around goes around".  When these guys are in the spotlight they run over everyone, disrespect them, and in the public eye treat them like crap, that's Parcells.  We all saw it, heard it, sometime laughed at it, and sometimes said to ourselves - one of these days.  Well looks like today is the day.  First off he wasn't a shoe in, he was one of those border line guys, sure he road the coat tails of Billy B, but why not, that guy is a sure lock.  But if players are as smart as some of them think they are, they'll take a look at this and maybe start acting a bit more respectful, grown up, and sometime appreciative of what they have, before it bits them in the butt later on.

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