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The Daily Shoutout: Irsay bluffing?

Posted on: January 20, 2012 8:39 am
 
OPENING HIT: Jim Irsay revealed his draft plans in an interview with ESPN. Just gave it all up. No waterboarding required. Here you go, peeps, what we're going to do: it's going to be Andrew Luck or Robert Griffin. So, there's that. Mystery solved.

“With Griffin and Luck and the way it’s shaping up at the top of the draft — could very likely go one and two like with Peyton and Ryan Leaf,” Irsay said. “It’s most likely one of those quarterbacks that you really feel is the best player in the draft, and where we’re at moving forward you can’t pass that up. I don’t think anyone would expect that.”

It all sounds very logical and that's what Irsay may indeed be planning but it's rare for an owner or GM to say: this is what we're going to do. In fact, it almost never happens.

So is Irsay using ESPN to help him bluff the league? Or using the network to help boost potential trade value? Or is Irsay sincere?

If you've ever read Irsay on Twitter you know he's a different sort of dude so some of this is not exactly out of his purview.

But it's still odd for an owner to declare their intentions this early which leads me to believe there is a tad bit of bluffitude going on here.

The Colts don't know about Manning's health and Irsay's logic is sound but...

This still reeks of a set up.

Category: NFL
Tags: Colts, Luck, Manning, NFL
 
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Since: Jan 18, 2008
Posted on: January 21, 2012 7:01 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: Irsay bluffing?

the Colts should trade both manning and the #1 pick for as many draft picks as possible, then draft an offensive line,secondary and russell wilson



Since: Jan 6, 2008
Posted on: January 21, 2012 3:21 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: Irsay bluffing?

Larry Luv - Numbers DO lie.  If you really think RGIII is a better NFL prospect at QB than Luck, you are blind.  Luck could start for over half of the NFL teams right now, and probably could have done so a year ago too.  He is significantly better than Peyton was at this time in his career.  RGIII has one magical season (albeit with 3 regular season lossees!  How does a Heisman winner let his team lose to Kansas St??? Oh, btw he LOST that game on his own INT late in the game, right?) running a gimmicky spread offense that does not translate to the pros at all.  Oh, and he also has a 1st round pick at WR to throw deep to.  Kind of makes a difference if you have someone who can separate from CBs.  RGIII is a slightly better version of Akili Smith, and that's about it.  Most want to compare RGIII with Cam Newton, but lightning doesn't strike twice, and you saw how Cam's numbers went WAY down after teams started getting film on him.  Luck is a known quantity (3 years in the spotlight and 2 Heisman runs) who has a legitimate chance to win multiple MVPs and probably multiple SBs, whereas RGIII is a HUGE risk with many question marks, not the least of which is HEALTH (how many concussions did he really have this year, btw?).  

"Superior to Luck in every category"?  Since RGIII throws the ball 50 times a game and Luck throws it 30 times, the stats are an absurd thing to compare and numbers ALWAYS lie.  Let's compare the only category that matters:  wins.  Compare the common opponent they played this year:  Oklahoma State.  Let's see, RGIII completed only 33 of 50 passes (66% - average) and accounted for 3 TURNOVERS (2 INT and 1 fumble) with only 1 TD in a 25PT POINT LOSS to an average OSU defense.  Luck, on the other hand, completed 27 fo 31 passes (87% - unheard of!) for 2 TDs and one INT, while doing everything perfectly with his arm (completed 20 of his last 21 passes of the game) and legs for the last 2.5 quarters.  If not for a horrible coaching decision and a rattled freshman kicker, Luck would have easily beaten that same OSU team.   Luck completely owned that game and looked like Peyton Manning running that offense.  

There is no debate.  Luck is the best QB and he solidified it in the FIesta Bowl.  He will be the #1 pick and RGIII will fade from memory like Troy Smith, Akili Smith, and pretty soon, Cam Newton.



Since: Apr 15, 2008
Posted on: January 20, 2012 5:56 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: Irsay bluffing?

 Irsay is a different kind of dude, and his daddy was a really really different kind of dude. All depends on the new G.M. Is he his own man w/real power, or Bobby's hand puppet ? 
 If Manning retires ( good chance why risk permanent disability?) Irsay will immediately gravitate towards Luck. History has been good to him & the Colts, why not repeat it. If the new G.M. from Philly has the juice, he will do one of two things. Take RGIII w/ the 1st pick, or trade the 1st for multiple (beyond multiple) picks. More than likely from everyone's comedy relief The Washington Redskins (lifelong Skin fan, but I've got to be honest).
 RGIII is superior to Luck in every category, numbers don't lie. He is the best QB in this draft, but doesn't fit the Irsay,Polian, Manning historical mode.
 Trading the pick for a king's ransom would also benefit the Colts, whether Manning retires or not. Would really benefit the Colts if Manning stays & is healthy. Watch out when Manning is surrounded by more talent.
 Time will tell who is calling the shots. 



Since: Jan 29, 2010
Posted on: January 20, 2012 5:03 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: Irsay bluffing?

So you can say "If he is healthy enough" to even step on the field, but you think teams will pay big to get him? Really?
Yes i did say all that, and i said it because according to reports on NFL.com, ESPN, and Pro football weekly along with a few other sources, numerous teams to include: The Jets, the Dolphins, and the Cards have all shown quite a bit of interest in acquiring the services of Mr. Manning. Other teams are also showing intertest as well. All the "experts" seem quite sure that Peyton would command a trade value actually much higher than Andrew Luck or the #1 overall pick in the draft this year. They are saying that as much as 3 or 4 picks could be traded for Peyton's services. As far as if he is healthy enough.... Even his busy body father does'nt seem entirely sure that he will be ready for the start of the 2012 season. Does he want to play for the Colts? Well Archie says yes. But that does'nt mean that it would be what was best for the Colts organization. BTW your 5th round pick would'nt even be a good opening bid.



Since: Feb 15, 2011
Posted on: January 20, 2012 1:32 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: Irsay bluffing?

So you can say "If he is healthy enough" to even step on the field, but you think teams will pay big to get him? Really? If I traded for Manning, it would be for future picks, and they would depend on how much Manning played. It he doesn't start a game, the Colts would get a fifth round pick. Why should I take all the risk on damaged goods? 



Since: Aug 30, 2007
Posted on: January 20, 2012 10:48 am
 

The Daily Shoutout: Irsay bluffing?

I, nor anyone else, know what the Colts will do. I have a really hard time thinking they get rid of Peyton. I just saw Irsay in ESPN this morning. Question? Does Irsay die of skin Cancer, Hypertension, or Alcoholism first? This guy looks like a ticking time bomb. He always looks like he just got back from a week in the Carribean without sun tan lotion. Or like he just got off a 2 week 18hr a day vodka and gin bender. Or he just quit taking his BP meds 3 weeks ago and his BP is 220/110. So on top of the QB turnover issue, the Colts better get familiar with who will take over after Jim Irsay goes because he doesn't look like he is going to last much longer.



Since: Jan 29, 2010
Posted on: January 20, 2012 10:41 am
 

The Daily Shoutout: Irsay bluffing?

Boosting trade value, simple. But if he doesnt get a trade I can't think he's lying either.

This really does appear to be a no-brainer. Scouts, NFL analysists, and pretty much everyone out there that has seen him play has agreed that Andrew Luck is the best QB coming out of college since.... well Peyton. The similarities between him and Peyton have been widely touted. Why would Irsay trade away this oppurtunity, or worse yet; use that #1 overall pick on anyone else? Make no mistake about it; Andrew Luck IS the best QB in this draft. They can mention Robert Griffin all that they want, but Luck not Griffin will be the 1st QB selected in this draft, and rightly so.

 Peyton will be 36 years old by the time he will have the oppurtunity (if he is healthy enough)  to actually even step on that football field again. Combine that with the fact that he missed all of last season with a very serious neck injury, and there should be no way that the colts can pass on Luck. The colts as painful as it might be to them should trade Peyton (before the March deadline to pay him $28 million) to the highest bidder. There are plenty of teams that will pay huge to get Peyton, and that would allow the colts to fill several areas of need on this team that obviously is in re-build mode with both players, and coach's.  



Since: Oct 29, 2007
Posted on: January 20, 2012 9:37 am
 

The Daily Shoutout: Irsay bluffing?

Boosting trade value, simple. But if he doesnt get a trade I can't think he's lying either.


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