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Mike Vick: Redemption almost complete

Posted on: August 29, 2011 8:05 pm
Edited on: August 30, 2011 7:31 am
 
Mike Vick, the star Philadelphia Eagles quarterback, has signed a multi-year extension worth about $100 million, I've confirmed through a league source. The amount of the guaranteed money, I'm told, is about $40 million.

Those are just numbers. They're huge numbers. But they are just numbers nonetheless. What the contract extension represents is the near complete trip for Vick from outstanding physical talent to a player who didn't work hard to improve that talent to dog killer to cautionary tale and now a redemption story.

Vick rocketed to fame on perhaps the most gifted pair of legs a quarterback has ever possessed. It was raw talent and it was stunning talent. The problem for Vick was that early in his career he failed to develop that talent. Inside the Atlanta organization Vick was known as one of the last to show up to practice and the first to leave when it was over.

Then came the dog fighting scandal that rocked a sport and led to Vick going to prison. I admit: I never thought we'd hear from Vick again.

He returned to the league and put on a show last year we've rarely seen before. He earned the Eagles' trust and his reward is a fat contract extension.

There are still a great many people who despise Vick. That's fine. Go ahead. My dog will never forgive him, either. Yet there is a part of this story that is truly stunning. A huge fall followed by a windfall. In many ways, despite the hatred many still have for Vick, he's an American story. An ugly fall from grace due to some ugly actions and a return.

So here we are. The next act of The Mike Vick Saga complete. The first act was the discovery, the second the crime, the third the comeback.

Tweeted Chicago defensive back Chris Harris: "CONGRATS to @MikeVick on the new deal. A lot of people r gonna hate but what God has for u is for u."

"Congrats to @MickVick on the new deal! #Road2Redemption," tweeted Damien Woody.

Now what we need to see from Vick is years of dedication and staying out of the hoosegow. Then the story will be complete.
 

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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: January 16, 2012 11:45 pm
 

Mike Vick: Redemption almost complete



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Since: Oct 7, 2011
Posted on: October 18, 2011 10:32 am
 

Mike Vick: Redemption almost complete

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Since: Oct 7, 2011
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Mike Vick: Redemption almost complete

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Since: Jan 2, 2010
Posted on: September 5, 2011 3:28 am
 

Mike Vick: Redemption almost complete

to knighttim, your ignorance is legendary.  "Eye for an eye" is from Matthew, which gives way to another old saying, "turn the other cheek."  Jesus preached against that "get even" mentality in that chapter.  If you were a little more spiritual, and less angry and vengeful, not to mention misogynistic, which is the ONLY reason you would defend that piece of gutter-trash, then you might truly understand the concept.  The bottom line is that both Ben Rothlisburger and Michael Vick are scumbags, but only one of them was punished for their wrong-doings.  The other lied their way out of hot water.  Many still think Worthlesburger is a scumbag of the highest order, deserving some serious prison time for what he didn't do.  I seriously pity those poor souls who would side with a monster like Rothlisburger, and persecute a man who paid his debt to society simply because they love dogs more than there own brothers and sisters.  I don't know how they sleep at night.



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: September 2, 2011 11:51 am
 

Mike Vick: Redemption almost complete

Yes getting someone fired is wrong and like I said Ben had a reputation for being a cocky ass....a lot of athletes are but again that doesnt show evidence he raped anyone.

They are two completely different situations but it tells me everything I need to know about somebody's character.  To me character is EVERYTHING ... nothing is more important then that.  As for your claim that "a lot" of athletes are like Ben I'll leave that alone except to say not a lot of athletes have had stories like that come out over the last few years.  Ben is extra special when it comes to his arrogance and how little he cares about your average person.  That's why story after story has come out questioning his character over the years... fans, even Steeler fans have written in over and over again talking about various things including fans that have met him or seen him in public and were disgusted at what they saw.  You don't hear these things about every athlete, not even for "a lot" of athletes... Ben is special.

IF there ever was a tape then why didnt the cops grab it right away? Why was the tape left there long enough to be taped over?
I doubt there ever was a tape....yes money talks and the bar had a lot to lose if they were caught on tape serving drinks to under age kids.

You think Im a no good person, naive or blind but yet there isnt any evidence...rather off hard evidence.

First of all please don't put words into my mouth.  I never said you were a "no good person" or "blind".  Naive?  Yes, I did say that and stick by it.  And no, that's not an attack on your character at all.  I have friends in the city I live in who just like you don't believe much in corruption.  You don't believe a bar owner can be paid by one of Ben's representatives to tape over what could be damaging evidence. You don't believe cops make phone calls to other cops and arrange for many corrupt things to be done.  I for one do believe in these things..... I've seen it in my every day life.  I have a cousin, the bad apple in our family who many years ago was charged with possession of drugs with the purpose of trafficking.  His friends and co-defendents got 2 year sentences.  My cousin's family had a connection, a criminal court judge.  After a couple of delays were granted this judge took his case over and sentenced him to 6 months in prison, he spent 30 days in the county jail.  His friends? Some spent 16 months in a penitentiary and others spent about the same time in a reformatory.  A great connection and a few bucks made a massive difference.... and he's no athlete. He's not famous..... imagine what the Ben's of the world could get away with.   I know another guy, more like a friend of a friend of a friend who's a drug dealer as well.  Been one for a good 20 years.... whenever a search warrant is about to be ordered on his property he miraculously gets a phone call to a private and pre-paid cell phone with a warning that it's coming.   Once again not an athlete and not famous.  Just imagine what a famous person with unlimited resources could get away with......  and those are just 2 stories I know about.  Me, a guy who has never been in trouble in his life and other then those 2 people doesn't even know anybody that breaks the law. Imagine how many more examples like this exist?  Police officers are VERY corrupt..... you don't see it or believe it, but I know for a fact they are.

I do have some evidence he didnt rape her.....sorta...hes married now, what women would marry a rapist? or even one she had even the slightest doubt was a rapist?

I don't really understand the point you're trying to make here.  Obviously she doesn't believe he's guilty of anything..... that means nothing except for one thing.... and that is she doesn't believe he's guilty, that's all.  Once again though, money rules !

That first girl was quoted by a work "associate" of saying something on the lines of getting herself a rich guy. That doesnt mean she wasnt raped but sure sounds fishy.

Exactly. But don't you see how you just contradicted yourself without meaning to?  Somebody saying something isn't "hard evidence", anybody can say somebody said anything but that doesn't make it true.  And they can't even be sued for slander or defamation of character because nobody can prove that person didn't hear what they said they heard.  What I'm getting at is this.... nobody could prove the accuser said this and the accuser never admitted she said that. Yet that girl's "evidence" was HUGE and helped Ben avoid being charged.  I said you contradicted yourself because look at what you and many others did.  You used something that's not proven against the first accuser that helped him avoid being charged. Yet when the 2nd accuser's friends said they weren't allowed in the bathroom to check on their friend and that was denied by Ben's bodyguards we couldn't use the girls statements because there is no proof... weird.   In both cases girls spoke against Ben and his case... in one case what the girl said mattered, in the 2nd case it didn't matter at all.   Odd, no ?

Usually rapist have a line going back to their late teen years, I would have expected a bunch to have come out of the wood work accusing Ben by now

Not true at all.  Just in the little city I live in 2 teachers in the last few years have been charged and convicted of raping students. None had criminal records and none had others come out after accusing them either.  Don't know where you got that info... and one last thing. Have you ever really KNOWN a girl that got raped?  It's terrible... disgusting, and it affects their lives forever.  They are afraid to speak if they don't think they'll win..... tough to beat filthy rich people with unlimited resources.




 



Since: Aug 30, 2009
Posted on: September 2, 2011 8:26 am
 

Mike Vick: Redemption almost complete


Yes getting someone fired is wrong and like I said Ben had a reputation for being a cocky ass....a lot of athletes are but again that doesnt show evidence he raped anyone.

IF there ever was a tape then why didnt the cops grab it right away? Why was the tape left there long enough to be taped over?
I doubt there ever was a tape....yes money talks and the bar had a lot to lose if they were caught on tape serving drinks to under age kids.

You think Im a no good person, naive or blind but yet there isnt any evidence...rather off hard evidence.
I have heard...and seen this ...he said .....she said stuff many times (ie my friend) and women can be just as cruel and devious as men.

The only real facts are the girl followed him around and went to the back with him without any screams for help.
Dont go character bashing me again and saying I think she deserved being raped....because there isnt evidence she was and NO ONE deserves to be raped....well maybe some child molesters in prison...but thats another topic lol

I bet that cop has a job working on some police force already. By resigning he eliminated any potental inquiries to what did happen, yes makes them sound guilty but even if found innocent chances are his town wouldnt want him back, I am sure there were people like you in his town who found Ben guilty and him too.

The cop was sorta guilty in one way, I am sure he witnessed a number of people under age drinking and didnt stop them, but then again he wasnt a cop in that area...or even that state and was getting paid to protect Ben not stop under age drinking. I did here some public out cries about why that cop stood there and watched the under age drinking

I do have some evidence he didnt rape her.....sorta...hes married now, what women would marry a rapist? or even one she had even the slightest doubt was a rapist?

That first girl was quoted by a work "associate" of saying something on the lines of getting herself a rich guy. That doesnt mean she wasnt raped but sure sounds fishy.

Usually rapist have a line going back to their late teen years, I would have expected a bunch to have come out of the wood work accusing Ben by now. I admit I was siting with my gavel waiting for more to come out accusing Ben so I could smack it down and say guilty!

What I do hope comes out of all this... Is Girls/Women please be aware of what you are doing and dont get yourselves into situations that can come down to the he said she said accusations. Keep youselves under control and dont allow yourselves to be alone in a situation that could end up badly. And guys...pretty much the same thing. Its a shame society is so messed up anymore that both guys and girls have to worry about every time they are alone with someone if they are going to be raped or accused of it.


Redwing: well Im done hijacking this Vick thread and
I rule innocent due to lack of evidence...SMACKS gavel

Judge Redwing I know your ruling already but..Hey how about if we ever discuss/debate again we try to be civil and not character bash?
We both have reasonings for our court rulings (and no not because Im some blind Ben lover). GO REDWINGs...until the Cup then I hope they lose to the Pens...(if Crosby ever gets healthy)



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: September 1, 2011 11:12 pm
 

Mike Vick: Redemption almost complete

Yea I believe Ben might have got someone fired......as you said people will do anything for money and if the restuarant is afraid Ben wont come back again I am sure they would fire a waitress in a second. Heck Im sure it wouldnt take a rich person to get a waitress fired....if she wasnt on the top waitresss then boom gone

Ben got a manager fired, a long term manager at that.  Good people and especially athletes that are supported by your average working person don't screw with people's lives... it's just wrong. 

I doubt there was ever a tape to begin with and if there was there are more than a couple reasons why it would disappear, most likely they never had a tape in that machine or they got rid of it because of the under age drinking that goes on in those college bars.

Yeah, there was video. The bar management admitted there was supposed to be but basically said it was accidentally taped over. Go figure.

Laywers.......try to get one for free...even public defenders......if you arent on welfare chances are you make too much 

Top notch lawyers in civil cases are extremely easy to find.... for criminal court absolutely not.  But in civil cases where their client is suing a very wealthy person or anybody with money it's simple.  Lawyers love it because they get a lot more in commission then their hourly rate would normally bring in for them.   I know somebody that sued their employer with a top notch free lawyer.   He won 120 thousand dollars and the lawyers cut was 36 thousand dollars plus expenses for very little work.  They are more then happy to take these deals.

Do you know the cops name...without looking it up? I dont so more than likely hardly anyone does..he can go elsewhere and get a job semi easy but if his name was plastered all over ESPN well good luck then

That's not the point. NOBODY quits not a job but a career good for a lifetime just because... they don't quit if something corrupt hasn't gone on.  C'mon man, that's literally impossible.  They can get fired but that's what courts are for.... but nobody quits if they haven't done anything wrong.

You like to insult my character for not frying Bens ass for something that NO ONE has any actuall evidence of

No. That's not why I'm insulting your character, not at all. I'm not asking you to "fry Ben's ass", I"m not even asking you to stop cheering for the guy whether the Steelers are your team or not.  What bothers me is you aren't willing to look at a few things beyond just the hard evidence.  You ignore the fact there was suddenly no videotape.  You ignore the fact not one but TWO girls in 2 different cities that dont' know each other just happened to accuse Ben of doing something wrong just a year apart.  The excuse is he's a celebrity and the woman want his money.  There have been HUNDREDS of celebrities and many bigger celebrities in this world with way more money and fame then Ben that have never been accused. Is Ben the unluckiest guy on the planet?   You also ignore the fact a cop from the case resigned.....

All I'm saying is don't underestimate what kind of damage money can do.  Famous people can get away with murder let alone rape.... money rules man. 


 



Since: Aug 30, 2009
Posted on: September 1, 2011 8:25 am
 

Mike Vick: Redemption almost complete

After reading others comments I dont understand either how Vick doing well in the NFL and making big money is redemption.....that isnt where he committed his crime

Redemption would be to keep himself clean and away from his dog fighting buddies while supporting animals/children.

Go back to the streets where he grew up and spend some of his cash to make it better.
If he stays out of trouble and does well his NFL paychecks will be a small portion of what he earns.



Since: Aug 30, 2009
Posted on: September 1, 2011 8:09 am
 

Mike Vick: Redemption almost complete

Redwing

Yea I believe Ben might have got someone fired......as you said people will do anything for money and if the restuarant is afraid Ben wont come back again I am sure they would fire a waitress in a second. Heck Im sure it wouldnt take a rich person to get a waitress fired....if she wasnt on the top waitresss then boom gone

And YES Ben has the reputation of being a cocky ass.

But still there isnt any evidence of a rape by Ben in either case.

I doubt there was ever a tape to begin with and if there was there are more than a couple reasons why it would disappear, most likely they never had a tape in that machine or they got rid of it because of the under age drinking that goes on in those college bars.

The thing that Ben or at least someone is his entourage should have been charged with was buying drinks for under age girls.
But Im sure there wasnt anyone who actually seen Ben or one of his guys actually hand under age girls a drink.....again if the drinks were just plopped down and the girls grabbed them most likely the bar would get into trouble.

My comments about her following him from 2 bars....yea young girls.....even older ones are atracted by money and power and will sometimes do really stupid things to be with those kind of guys. And more than likely if she was following him around she wanted to do more than say hi. Wether she said no once they were in the back is a completely different story and no one knows if she did or didnt.
There are plenty of girls who do a guy then feel guilty and charge him with rape.

To give you a little back ground a really good friend of mine was charged with forcing himself upon his WIFE!!! his wife of 5 years!
I know the guy very well and he wouldnt do that...PLUS his wife used that same crap against a guy she got prego with before he met her.
If he would have been the first one she pulled that on his business that he owned in a small town would have been ruined. FYI she ended up dropping those charges against BOTH the guys.

You probably wouldnt ever go to a Steeler game because of Ben...right?....would you want your car fixed by someone that YOU were judge and jury and you convicted of rape?

Laywers.......try to get one for free...even public defenders......if you arent on welfare chances are you make too much
Do you know the cops name...without looking it up? I dont so more than likely hardly anyone does..he can go elsewhere and get a job semi easy but if his name was plastered all over ESPN well good luck then.

You like to insult my character for not frying Bens ass for something that NO ONE has any actuall evidence of. If it WAS YOUR daughter then yea you most likely would know her character but do you know the girls in Bens cases? Show me the evidence....or even better show the Rooneys and Ben would be gone as a Steeler....he was almost gone as it was so it wouldnt take much evidence.

If Ben is a rapist then more than likely he will strike again.......question is will Vick still support dog fighting? lets hope no for both.


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