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The Daily Shoutout: StubHub

Posted on: August 17, 2011 7:41 am
 
OPENING HIT: So this is how I get myself into trouble. The site Profootballtalk.com ran a semi-mocking post about the mayor of Jacksonville pushing for fans to buy season tickets. The Jaguars again face blackouts, the site reported, if 5,000 season tickets aren't sold.

On Twitter, I wrote several sentences, agreeing with PFT, saying it's amateurish for a mayor of a major American city to play the role of StubHub. I think mayors have better things to do like, oh, fight crime and worry about Jacksonville's troubled real estate market.

Well, the reaction from the Jagnuts was swift. A mob formed. Some of the Twitter responses were passionate but reasonable. Others were vitriolic and belligerent. A super duper Jaguars fan/cheerleader named Alfie, a guy I normally like, sent more than a few boorish tweets, three of which included profanity (he argued two contained profanity since he used the same curse twice--interesting math there). He also kept calling me "boss." I wondered if he was confusing me with Kevin Boss.

I was called anti-Jacksonville even though I wrote this when I worked there. And this. Oh, and this.

Not to mention I once bought Jaguars season tickets.

I love the city. Nice people, beautiful beaches and the best radio talk-show host in the business.

Yet Jaguars fans are increasingly insecure about their team's ticket sale situation often deflecting the Jaguars' problems by blasting the city of Tampa and the Buccaneers for their ticket issues. So Jaguars fans hate it when people criticize their team's lack of ticket sales but then attack another team.

But back to the issue. Should a mayor spend even a second trying to boost ticket sales for an NFL team?

Foul-mouthed Alfie de Ville said I defended President Obama when he was ripped for filing out an NCAA bracket. Not an unfair counterpoint. Though I would argue Obama spending a half-hour once a year going on ESPN to talk about a stupid bracket is far less time consuming than a mayor commiting to selling tickets. I don't believe this is something the mayor will spend 10 minutes doing or pushing off to subordinates. He will spend more time on this than my Twitter critics want to admit.

Also, while there are exceptions, in general, politicians screw up sports.

There is an argument made that by helping to sell tickets and keep the Jaguars viable (and in the city) the mayor is protecting jobs. Not unfair yet consider this. There are economists -- and not a few -- that have long expressed serious doubts that an NFL team has a truly beneficial financial impact on a city.

My biggest problem with mayoral intervention is that it takes away from the responsibility of the Jaguars. It's the team's job to sell tickets. Not the mayor's. The team and NFL should combine to invest massive resources into ticket drives. I mean, big bucks. Cash money.

I always go back to this. Jaguars fans get saucy when anyone discusses their ticket situation (WHAT ABOUT TAMPA!!!!) and they are right sometimes Jacksonville is unfairly targeted by the media. That's true.

But Jaguars fans could shut everyone the hell up by buying tickets. Jaguars fans should be mad at one entity only: the people of Jacksonville. No one else.

Now excuse me while I put on my bulletproof vest.
Category: NFL
Comments

Since: May 31, 2007
Posted on: August 18, 2011 5:00 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: StubHub

You obviously don't realize that Indy (4 hour drive), Houston (12 hour drive), and Nashville (6 hour drive) would produce RIVALRIES for the Rams.   Los Angeles Rams are DEAD!!!!!   Time to start new rivalries, in the same time zone!
While I would have no problem with the Colts being in the same division as the Rams, we are not in the same time zone.  Nashville, Houston, and St. Louis are all on Central time.  Indianapolis and Jacksonville are both on Eastern time.



Since: Jan 7, 2010
Posted on: August 18, 2011 10:11 am
 

The Daily Shoutout: StubHub

Sure Skyhawk...makes a ton of sense for ST. LOUIS RAMS to be in WEST DIVISION??>??   Seattle, SanFran, really?????   You obviously don't realize that Indy (4 hour drive), Houston (12 hour drive), and Nashville (6 hour drive) would produce RIVALRIES for the Rams.   Los Angeles Rams are DEAD!!!!!   Time to start new rivalries, in the same time zone!

Kansas City and Chicago would be great...but NFL will never break up those divisions.    Trust me, this move will happen if Jacksonville goes out West...think before you post.

Coming from a St. Louis fan, the baseball Cardinals and Astros had great rivalries.    Indy fans would love to be able to travel the 4 hours to St. Louis for divisional games.  




Since: Jul 26, 2011
Posted on: August 18, 2011 7:38 am
 

The Daily Shoutout: StubHub

There isn't anything wrong with a city trying to get that "sellout" status.  Once TV opens up after this happens, revenue starts generating from others sources in that city.  The classic example of not taking care of a team is the Los Angeles Rams. I would say the Jaguars and the city are doing what they can so the Jags don't become thenext  Los Angeles NFL team.




Since: Apr 12, 2010
Posted on: August 17, 2011 8:17 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: StubHub

the jags sell out games by tarping off seats to reduce thier capacity its not sellin out its getting the game on TV by using a loop hole.



Since: Oct 19, 2006
Posted on: August 17, 2011 3:27 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: StubHub

Jag a the way you are completely wrong. The Chargers had a couple games blacked out last year, but that was the first time since 2004. dont let facts get in the way of a post. Trust me I was there during the Ryan Leaf years.



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: August 17, 2011 2:23 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: StubHub

Jacksonville to Los Angeles.  

LA Jags move to the NFC West: with Seattle, Arizona, and SanFran

St. Louis Rams move to the AFC South: Indy, Houston, and Tennessee.

Makes sense, Goodell, approve the move!
No, it doesn't. You can't have the Rams playing in the AFC, for one, since they've been an NFC team since they began life in Cleveland. Rams-49ers has been a rivalry since the 49ers entered the league in 1950. You can't split them up.

Second, you can't have St. Louis in the South and Kansas City in the West. If St. Louis went to the AFC, the whole point would so they started playing the Chiefs every year. I don't know who you move, but it doesn't make sense to move the Rams.



Since: Nov 8, 2010
Posted on: August 17, 2011 12:50 pm
 

The Daily Shoutout: StubHub

Man, what sh!tty fans. They are usually at least as good as Tennessee and the Titans have 120+ consecutive sellouts. But I guess people living in Florida can't afford tickets like people in Tennessee and Kentucky can...?



Since: Apr 14, 2007
Posted on: August 17, 2011 11:12 am
 

The Daily Shoutout: StubHub

What this book, and many detractors say is that this can be thrown out when there are heavy taz tax subsidies to keep the teams afloat.



Since: Apr 14, 2007
Posted on: August 17, 2011 11:10 am
 

The Daily Shoutout: StubHub

Mike Freeman is assuming he understands the book he referenced. He doesn't.

Second, where does this "cash money" come from? If he would have gotten his way (even though he claimed the players won at the end again) and players would have received more than the 62% of total revenue that had received under the old CBA?

Freeman doesn't research or report. He states an opinion spawned in ignorance.

Economists do not say or doubt that having an NFL teams benefits the local economy through employment directly, and increase companies size in supporting these teams. None that I have read, and if there are a dumb-dumb or two out there that refuse the obvious, well they are likely good friends with old Mikie if birds of a feather flock together.

What this book, and many detractors say is that this can be thrown out when there are heavy taz subsidies to keep the teams afloat.

That isn't what Freeman is saying here, because Freeman is a moron. In fact if they were heavily subsidized the community loses all that investment if they pack up and leave.

Further a Mayor should try to keep businesses that highlight Jacksonville running the provide such a broad international footprint as the NFL.

Now in a perfect world the NFL would pay for their own stadiums, but Mike Freeman opposed the owners and teams making any money to do so in the lock out...Remember Mikie?

You don't get to have it both ways Mikie. Either the NFL should be able to keep some money and invest in their future, or tax payers have to while players get to keep all their money.



Since: Jan 7, 2010
Posted on: August 17, 2011 11:08 am
 

The Daily Shoutout: StubHub

Jacksonville to Los Angeles.  

LA Jags move to the NFC West: with Seattle, Arizona, and SanFran

St. Louis Rams move to the AFC South: Indy, Houston, and Tennessee.

Makes sense, Goodell, approve the move!


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