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Manning, Brees also want free agency

Posted on: July 19, 2011 11:37 am
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There are more problems in the final days of the CBA negotiations between the owners and players and those issues settle around Peyton Manning and Drew Brees.

Multiple sources say that Manning, one of the named plaintiffs, wants immediate free agency in order to settle the lawsuit. Those sources also say Brees wants to be a free agent next year. The sources say lawyers for the NFLPA have asked NFL owners for those two things in addition to the reported demands from players Logan Mankins and Vincent Jackson.

The new CBA will get done but this is still a troubling sign that the the NFLPA is making last ditch efforts to get more from the owners. It can, indeed, slow things down.

Again, a deal will get done this week but this is not great news.

Brees is scheduled to earn $10 million in 2011 and Manning was tagged for 2011 that would pay him $23 million.

A CBA cannot be agreed upon unless all the plaintiffs settle the case.
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Category: NFL
Tags: lockout
 
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tomlye
Since: Nov 28, 2011
Posted on: November 30, 2011 9:47 am
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Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 21, 2011 1:15 am
 

Manning, Brees also want free agency

For the other 8 billion they will most likely get 50-60% depending on what the players agreed to in the CBA.  That's a fucking lot of money. I don't get how you can say 'That's the thing union supporters don't understand' when you obviously don't understand how much the owner's actually profit compared to the players do the work. 

I still don't understand what you are saying at all.... honestly I'm not being argumentative or funny, I just don't understand.  So let's say the owners get 50 percent of the remaining 8 billion dollars, that's another 4 billion, right?  Split up 30 ways it works out to about another 130 million dollars per team on average in revenue.  Don't you understand they have many more expenses then just the players? A ridiculous amount of legitimate expenses all year long... and business owners in every industry re-invest part of their profits as well.. and they pay taxes... big taxes.  Buildings, employees all over the places.....  

You say the players do all the work?  How ridiculous of a statement is that? Do you honestly believe an owner of a big corporation doesn't work?  And what about the fact they take the risks involved as any business owner does where the players are guaranteed about half the GROSS REVENUE regardless of how profitable the league is or how much a league loses in a season???

The players are NOTHING without the owners... the owners could scrap the NFL if they really wanted to and invest in a new league if they wanted to.  The players and their union aren't capable of doing this, thus they aren't in the drivers seat, the owners are and the owners always will be, end of story.   If the players were capable of doing what the owners have done you can bet your ass they would have done so a long long time ago and kept 100 percent of the profits.... but they didn't and they can't so they best just shut their mouths and play football.  



Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: July 21, 2011 1:15 am
 

Manning, Brees also want free agency

@chevy98350 I personally think he wants UFA so that he can remain a Colt for a longer period of time.  By being an UFA it puts pressure on the Colts to sign him to a long term deal ASAP.  I'm pretty sure with a $23 million cap hit, Manning knows the talent that surrounds him would not be as good.  With a long term deal and they can prorate the signing bonus and reduce the cap hit so that they either resign some players or possibly (but unlikely) dip into the FA pool.



Since: May 11, 2007
Posted on: July 20, 2011 10:35 pm
 

Manning, Brees also want free agency

Manning wants immediate free agency? Who does he think really would want him, besides the colts? I would have thought, after the Favre fiasco, he`d want to stay put (come on goober.... $23million, for 1 year) And remember, the more you get, the lesser talent there will be around you. And slimmer chances of a superbowl trip.



Since: Aug 30, 2006
Posted on: July 20, 2011 9:00 pm
 

Manning, Brees also want free agency

A billion dollars divided 30 ways means the average owner may have taken in a little over 30 million dollars or so before taxes.  
That is straight off the top before the split.  For the other 8 billion they will most likely get 50-60% depending on what the players agreed to in the CBA.  That's a fucking lot of money. I don't get how you can say 'That's the thing union supporters don't understand' when you obviously don't understand how much the owner's actually profit compared to the players do the work.  Looks like they will have a deal though now and that's too bad for Vincent Jackson and Logan Mankins...but a deal is better than no deal unless you're not a fan of the NFL...I don't get why people are hating on Drew Brees and Peyton Manning because they helped get a deal done.  Why continue to wage a lawsuit war when all you want to do is play football and get paid fairly?



Since: Jun 25, 2009
Posted on: July 20, 2011 5:00 pm
 

Manning, Brees also want free agency

The NFL will pay for its office staff because it can afford to, skinsquad.  These guys are BILLIONAIRES.  As in a thousand millions.  They can afford to lose 10or 20 million and not bat an eyelash.  The owners will lose more in literal terms, but in comparison to what they already have, the players will lose so much more.

That's the thing union supporters don't understand.  They hear the number 9 billion and assume the owners get it all.... it's ridiculous. The owners in 2009 took a billion off the top with the rest going to the players and operating expenses.   A billion dollars divided 30 ways means the average owner may have taken in a little over 30 million dollars or so before taxes.  Even if the owners kept 20 million dollars in profit on average who cares?  That's not real money to these guys....  half of the owners are billionaires because of other businesses, not the NFL. And the half not in the billionaire status are worth hundreds of millions with once again, successful businesses outside the NFL. 

The players are the ones that would get hurt missing games, not the owners.  And even if a complete year was missed and the NFL struggled when they got back it's the players hurt once again..... less money for the players with very few doing much outside of football to recoup the difference. 



Since: Jun 20, 2009
Posted on: July 20, 2011 10:23 am
 

Manning, Brees also want free agency

The NFL will pay for its office staff because it can afford to, skinsquad.  These guys are BILLIONAIRES.  As in a thousand millions.  They can afford to lose 10or 20 million and not bat an eyelash.  The owners will lose more in literal terms, but in comparison to what they already have, the players will lose so much more.



Since: Oct 26, 2007
Posted on: July 20, 2011 9:17 am
 

Manning, Brees also want free agency

Thanks Brees and Manning.  Way to represent the other 1890+ players.  DOUSHEBAGS!!!!!



Since: Aug 21, 2006
Posted on: July 20, 2011 12:30 am
 

Manning, Brees also want free agency

Freeman's credibility as a journalist called into question in the above article.  Essentially it says he is not really a journalist, similar to the whole News of the World thing, time to call out these hack journalists!!
No, the time to call him out was seven years ago in January of 2004, when it actually happened. You're a lot too late.



Since: Oct 10, 2006
Posted on: July 20, 2011 12:02 am
 

Manning, Brees also want free agency

Are you for real?  Do you honestly think these 4 guys are dong this on their own?  Really?  I'm pretty sure the othe members of the bargaining commitee like Saturday and Mawae are well aware of this.  These are the guys that are presenting this at the table along with Smith. 

And yes they do have leverage....as much as the players will lose, the NFL will lose a lot more.  They will get no money for TV, tickets, Sunday Ticket, etc.  But still have to pay for office staff and everything else.  How do they do that without revenue?

I'm not for the players on this one but for you to say that 4 guys standing on their own is whatis  holding back an agreement, you are wrong.  The majority of the players are behind this decision.  Don't you think if prominent players like Tom Brady, Ray Lewis, Adrian Peterson, and so on were against this, we would be hearing at lot more anger than from an idiot kicker in Minnesota?



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