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Posted on: June 9, 2011 8:07 am
 
MEETINGS END: The second round of super duper califragilistic secret meetings between NFL players and owners have ended. Few details are emerging from the meetings but that doesn't mean no details are known. Based on interviews late Wednesday night with several sources from both sides that have knowledge of the talks this is what I've gathered:

--The owners and players have closed the revenue sharing gap differences dramatically. Though there are still issues to be worked out in that area (obviously) the owners continue to lower their ridiculous initial proposal of a $1 billion player salary rollback for a 5-year CBA. No one will say where that number is now but my guess is it's at least half of that. It's highly likely the owners coming down significantly in this area is the biggest reason why both sides are optimistic a deal gets done.

--Though Roger Goodell and DeMaurice Smith will never star in a buddy movie their dislike has cooled.

--I'm also told that in recent weeks Goodell has been able to control some of the more hard line elements of ownership. This has always been needed but hasn't happened until recently.

--An 18-game season remains off the table for the players. They hate the idea and truly believe it would do even more damage to the minds and bodies of players than football already does.

--Both sides have a great deal of trust in Judge Arthur Boylan who is running the mediation sessions.

Overall the level of hostility is far reduced from months ago and both sides are done posturing and want to get a deal done. This is always good news.
See you Friday.


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Since: Dec 2, 2011
Posted on: January 8, 2012 1:19 pm
 

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Since: Apr 16, 2009
Posted on: June 9, 2011 6:05 pm
 

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Cammie - Amen !!!

The only reason on go on Freemans biased rants is because of posters like yourself that make it funnier than it already is.


Soon as I got the the part  "RIDICULOUS initial proposal of a $1 billion player salary rollback for a 5-year CBA" I was done. I mean really are you that clueless? The Owners WILL get that Billion dollar cut one way or another, even if it means making the players look like they got more than they really did. You see they are business men (most of the owners are self-made) they don't care about "Wow we really took to them" that stuff is for Unions and Lawyers that like to puff thier chest out. Which is why this has taken so long and gotten ugly because the players hired a clueless DC lawyer to run the Union, insted they should have looked to one of thier own like an Upshaw.

Also love the comment that basicly says progress has been made because Goodell (the employee) smacked down the Owners (his employers) into giving up. Hey FreeStyle, Goodell has done NOTHING the owners have not instructed him to do. A bigger part of this may well be pressure put on D. Moron Smith by the players (whom in recent weeks have expressed displeasure in the handling of negotiations by thier rep).



Since: Sep 15, 2009
Posted on: June 9, 2011 5:59 pm
 

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The owers own the teams.  Thus they are called owners.  Why do they have to lose money to want the split to be 60-40 instead of 50-50?  There is no law (free market system and all) that states the only way you can cut employees pay is when you are losing money.  Are the owners greedy?  Yes.  Does that have anything to do with negotiating a new contract?  No.  This isn't about morals.  It's strictly a business decision.

I guess in your world owners aren't entitled to make as much money as they can.


Maybe it was RIDICULOUS to give it to the players in the first place. Unions believe once they get something they're entitled to it forever. It's we have this you can't take it away - just give us more.
What kind of business are you in that you think it would be ok for your associates to simply tear up a perfectly good agreement?

Again, incorrect.  There is no agreement.  The previous agreement term ended.  Let me ask you this, what kind of business are you in that the employees get to dictate to ownership that they should get HALF of the revenue?  Are you crazy?


I'm just gonna pretend I said all this originally. I completely agree and in now way ever in hell should an employee (football player or not) tell you how much money you can make. It is the other way around and really makes me sick that the players think they're owed that much.






Since: Oct 30, 2008
Posted on: June 9, 2011 5:26 pm
 

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 Why- is it because people clamor to see the owners?  The owners take zero risk.  ZERO.  If you own an NFL team, you'll make money- you don't even have to put a decent product on the field.  (SEE:  Cincnnati Bengals.)  So if the league is so successful, why are we in this position?


Incorrect.  The owners set up the league, fronted the money to start it, made the rules, and PAID THE PLAYERS.  The owners pay, the fans pay, the advertisers pay, in fact everyone but the players pay.  The players are the only party that only takes.  There is no giving.

  It's the owners saying "We don't want to abide by our agreement anymore,"

Incorrect again.  The term of the agreement is over.  It's the owners saying "we don't want to do the same agreement as last time."


 What kind of business are you in that you think it would be ok for your associates to simply tear up a perfectly good agreement? 

Again, incorrect.  There is no agreement.  The previous agreement term ended.  Let me ask you this, what kind of business are you in that the employees get to dictate to ownership that they should get HALF of the revenue?  Are you crazy?


 If you're (choose your adjective.  I'd call you "naive") enough to believe that the owners are really LOSING MONEY, then they can easily prove it. 


The owers own the teams.  Thus they are called owners.  Why do they have to lose money to want the split to be 60-40 instead of 50-50?  There is no law (free market system and all) that states the only way you can cut employees pay is when you are losing money.  Are the owners greedy?  Yes.  Does that have anything to do with negotiating a new contract?  No.  This isn't about morals.  It's strictly a business decision.

I guess in your world owners aren't entitled to make as much money as they can. 



Since: Jun 3, 2011
Posted on: June 9, 2011 4:25 pm
 

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What's your problem?  Hate working people in general?  You have a thing about unions, don't you.  Remember that the NFL has been the most successful sports league in history.  Why- is it because people clamor to see the owners?  The owners take zero risk.  ZERO.  If you own an NFL team, you'll make money- you don't even have to put a decent product on the field.  (SEE:  Cincnnati Bengals.)  So if the league is so successful, why are we in this position?  Because the owners tore up the agreement that has worked for 20 yrs. and have LOCKED OUT the players.  Friend, this isn't the players getting greedy.  It's the owners saying "We don't want to abide by our agreement anymore," yet that seems to be OK with you.  What kind of business are you in that you think it would be ok for your associates to simply tear up a perfectly good agreement?  Here's the thing:  If you're (choose your adjective.  I'd call you "naive") enough to believe that the owners are really LOSING MONEY, then they can easily prove it.  All they have to do is open their books, but they won't.  What dos that tell you?  (And, NO, it ISN'T their right not to.  If they're breaking a contract because of financial conditions, then the burden of proof is on them to show it, and they won't.)



Since: Feb 16, 2007
Posted on: June 9, 2011 12:37 pm
 

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Does this idiot (Freeman) work fcor the NFLPA? He can't write a neutral article. He writes things like:

 Though there are still issues to be worked out in that area (obviously) the owners continue to lower their RIDICULOUS initial proposal of a $1 billion player salary rollback for a 5-year CBA


He is obviously so intelligent he knows the financial state of the NFL intimately.   Maybe it was RIDICULOUS to give it to the players in the first place. Unions believe once they get something they're entitled to it forever. It's we have this you can't take it away - just give us more.



Since: Apr 28, 2009
Posted on: June 9, 2011 12:19 pm
 

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They are probably about halfway up Mount Everest at this point.


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