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League and players to meet?

Posted on: April 7, 2011 8:52 am
Edited on: April 7, 2011 12:32 pm
 

The league and players could actually begin negotiating again as early as this week, multiple league sources tell CBSSports.com.

Now, to be clear, other league sources are strongly denying this. Several insisted owners would never meet with players until the now decertified union reconstituted itself. "If we meet with them this week," said one source, "I'll eat my hat."

But if other sources are to be believed some owners might be softening that hardline stance and hat eating might be on the menu.

Again, there are strong denials to this, but according to sources, some owners are slightly fidgety about what happened before judge Susan Nelson during the federal court hearing in Minneapolis on Wednesday. Nelson, according to various reports, seemed to query the lawyer for the owners more extensively than the legal representation for the players.

This can mean something or it can mean nothing but several league sources admitted that some of Nelson's remarks raised eyebrows.

The players offered to meet with the owners last week but the owners refused. The New York Times recently quoted the NFL's lead attorney, Jeff Pash, as saying the NFL isn't interested in settlement discussions. The owners have said all along they want to talk to players but only as a union. The owners might also be willing to lose in Nelson's court and take their chances on a more conservative appeals court. But that is incredibly risky.

Just to be clear: some in the league are strongly denying any discussion about resuming talks with a decertified union but others are saying this is increasingly a strong possibility.

So, as usual, stay tuned.






Category: NFL
Tags: Labor
 
Comments

Since: May 29, 2007
Posted on: April 11, 2011 11:26 pm
 

League and players to meet?

Ths is what most businesses would do as the FIRST step in combatting a difficult economy, especially when it is a service being provided not a product. Lower the price. Nine times out of ten, it works and customers are beating down the door to buy your suddenly reasonably priced product. This is how sound business is conducted (of course none of applies to airlines, lol).



Since: Sep 28, 2006
Posted on: April 8, 2011 12:59 pm
 

League and players to meet?

Thank you Balrog01 and BSG40 for some great posts.

If you are interested here is a link to some great info on the NFL Salaries, Salary Cap, the CBA and other great info that I think was writtrn in 2008.

 

Here is a very interesting section as a sample.

Question 1.2a 
Is there a Minimum Salary? 
 
Answer: Yep. Under the new CBA, the players are guaranteed 50% of Leaguewide Total Revenues. In the event that player costs are less than 50% of Total Revenues, then, on or before April 15 of the next League Year, the NFL shall pay an amount equal to such deficiency directly to the players.

More specifically, beginning in 2006 each team had to pay a guaranteed Minimum Team Salary of 84% of the Salary Cap. Each year that percentage goes up by 1.2%, which means that it is 86.4% this season (2008). However, the Minimum Team Salary cannot extend beyond 90% of the Salary Cap. Any shortfall in the Minimum Team Salary at the end of a league year has to be paid, on or before April 15 of the next league year, by the team(s) having such shortfall, directly to the players who were on that team's roster at any time during the season.

When the last CBA was ratified by the owners, they added a contention that they be allowed to end the agreement early should they be dissatisifed with the arrangement. Many of the smaller market teams soon discovered what only two teams (Buffalo and Cincinnati) originally feared at the time of the ratification: the massive increases to the minimum salary (see below) for players has placed an overwhelming burden on some teams' abilility to make a profit. Rigid rules governing profit sharing haven't helped. Thus, the owners have agreed to end the CBA after the 2010 season. It will be interesting to see whether or not the NFL will bring back something like the DGR to calculate the salary cap -- or if the salary cap will still be in effect at all. (The concept of a Rookie Salary Cap has also been tossed about.) The dynamics are certain to change given that the chief architects of the existing CBA (Paul Tagliabue and Gene Upshaw) are no longer in the picture.




Since: Apr 8, 2011
Posted on: April 8, 2011 5:55 am
 

League and players to meet?

BSG40 - WOW! Right on the money! I could not have written that any better. It's a shame that common sense can't be realized by a majority of people (players included). Players are once again proving that they spell TEAM with a capital I.



Since: Mar 15, 2011
Posted on: April 8, 2011 5:54 am
 

League and players to meet?

So perhaps they will meet or perhaps they won't.  Why does it take eight paragraphs to say nothing?



Since: Feb 22, 2010
Posted on: April 8, 2011 4:48 am
 

League and players to meet?

Everyone knows both the players and owners are rich.  It truly is Millionaires vs. Billionaires...and I am sorry, I have no sympathy for any of them if they cannot pay their monthly bills.  With that being said, everyone needs to realise this work stoppage is due to one thing and one thing only.  MONEY!  It is not about how many games to play in a season or safety, or what color a teams jersey will be next year...it is about SHOWING ME THE MONEY.

I once saw a great interview on TV in which a successful self made Billionaire was asked " When is enough... enough?  "What amount of money do you have to have to consider calling it quits and considering a deal being done".  The Billionaire replied with a little smile and I love what he said..."Just a little bit more".

Every 4-6 years, the players and the owners have to fight it out for "just a little bit more".   Boil out all the emotion and media coverage of this issue...getting just a little bit more is the plain and simple truth of this. 




Since: Feb 22, 2010
Posted on: April 8, 2011 4:45 am
 

League and players to meet?

Everyone knows both the players and owners are rich.  It truly is Millionaires vs. Billionaires...and I am sorry, I have no sympathy for any of them is they cannot pay their monthly bills.  With that being said, everyone needs to realise this work stoppage is due to one thing and one thing only.  MONEY!  It is not about how many games to play in a season or safety, or what color a teams jersey will be next year...it is about SHOWING ME THE MONEY.

I once saw a great interview on TV in which a successful self made Billionaire was asked " When is enough... enough?  "What amount of money do you have to have to consider calling it quits and considering a deal being done".  The Billionaire replied with a little smile and I love what he said..."Just a little bit more".

Every 4-6 years, the players and the owners have to fight it out for "just a little bit more".   Boil out all the emotion and media coverage of this issue...getting just a little bit more is the plain and simple truth of this. 



Since: Feb 22, 2010
Posted on: April 8, 2011 4:44 am
 

League and players to meet?

Everyone knows both the players and owners are rich.  It truly is Millionaires vs. Billionaires...and I am sorry, I have no sympathy for any of them is they cannot pay their monthly bills.  With that being said, everyone needs to realise this work stoppage is due to one thing and one thing only.  MONEY!  It is not about how many games to play in a season or safety, or what color a teams jersey will be next year...it is about SHOWING ME THE MONEY.

I once saw a great interview on TV in which a successful self made Billionaire was asked " When is enough... enough?  "What amount of money do you have to have to consider calling it quits and considering a deal being done".  The Billionaire replied with a little smile and I love what he said..."Just a little bit more".

Every 4-6 years, the players and the owners have to fight it out for "just a little bit more".   Boil out all the emotion and media coverage of this issue...getting just a little bit more is the plain and simple truth of this. 




Since: Feb 22, 2010
Posted on: April 8, 2011 4:42 am
 

League and players to meet?

Everyone knows both the players and owners are rich.  It truly is Millionaires vs. Billionaires...and I am sorry, I have no sympathy for any of them is they cannot pay their monthly bills.  With that being said, everyone needs to realise this work stoppage is due to one thing and one thing only.  MONEY!  It is not about how many games to play in a season or safety, or what color a teams jersey will be next year...it is about SHOWING ME THE MONEY.

I once saw a great interview on TV in which a successful self made Billionaire was asked " When is enough... enough?  "What amount of money do you have to have to consider calling it quits and considering a deal being done".  The Billionaire replied with a little smile and I love what he said..."Just a little bit more".

Every 4-6 years, the players and the owners have to fight it out for "just a little bit more".   Boil out all the emotion and media coverage of this issue...getting just a little bit more is the plain and simple truth of this. 



Since: Feb 22, 2010
Posted on: April 8, 2011 4:33 am
 

League and players to meet?

There is no doubt that both the players and owners are rich.  It truly is an issue of Millionaires vs. Billiionaires.  Money is and will always be the main point of contention in matters like this.  Not working conditions, how many games in a season, safety issues, what color a teams jersey will be next year...IT IS ABOUT "SHOWING ME THE MONEY".

I always like to refer to an interview I once saw on TV where a successful Billionaire was asked, "How much money do you have to make to call it quits or considered the deal done"?  I loved the Billionaires response...."Just a little bit more".  

This is why the players and owners fight every 4-6 years...they want "just a little bit more".



Since: Feb 22, 2010
Posted on: April 8, 2011 4:31 am
 

League and players to meet?

There is no doubt that both the players and owners are rich.  It truly is an issue of Millionaires vs. Billiionaires.  Money is and will always be the main point of contention in matters like this.  Not working conditions, how many games in a season, safety issues, what color a teams jersey will be next year...IT IS ABOUT "SHOWING ME THE MONEY".

I always like to refer to an interview I once saw on TV where a successful Billionaire was asked, "How much money do you have to make to call it quits or considered the deal done"?  I loved the Billionaires response...."Just a little bit more".  

This is why the players and owners fight every 4-6 years...they want "just a little bit more".


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